A previously described microthermal measurement technique is applied to diagnose the causes and locations of sources of harmful ‘seeing’ effects in solar telescopes. Examples of the investigation of a compact 30-cm refractor at Culgoora Observatory and the massive 60-in. McMath reflector at Kitt Peak Observatory are described. The separate contributions from various parts of the telescopes and their immediate environments to the overall modulation transfer function and to the rms wavefront deformation are determined. The effectiveness of ventilation equipment fitted to these telescopes is assessed. In particular, it is shown that rms wavefront deformations ranging from λ/8 to 2λ may originate within the immediate atmospheric environments of these telescopes. Since the locations of these disturbances are determined there is a possibility of effecting improvements for example by mounting a telescope adequately high above the floor of its supporting tower. In the McMath reflector the major contribution to bad ‘seeing’ generally arises in the upper part of the instrument in the vicinity of the heliostat.